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Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 17:52:00 -
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Drifterin Thedark wrote:There is no doubt in my mind anymore. Mittani was the one who leaked that internal CCP newsletter.
If that was true he'd have been kicked off the CSM and banned in half a heartbeat. Likely his name would still be filtered here like **********'s was on the old forums
and STILL IS wow! Way to hold a grudge CCP They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:03:00 -
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Tikera Tissant wrote:
This can bring more players into the game who are more into the social aspect vs the entire game.
fixed that for you
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:47:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:People People People CCP DO NOT CARE The ONLY thing that will make the suits at CCP take any notice is people cancelling there accounts and ONLY then if the income from subscriptions and the purchases of PLEX for the use of adding game time continually fall over a period of time. You can make as many posts as you like on the forums, Alexander 'The Mittani' Gianturco can have his delusions of grandeur and it will NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCEYou want change, then do the following 1. Go to https://secure.eveonline.com/2. Log In 3. Click On Game Time 4. Click on Cancel Subscription 5. Give Reason 6. Click on Cancel Subscription or if you pay via plex - STOP adding game time. If enough people do this then the suits at CCP might, just might sit up, take the heads out of the arse and take notice but don;t hold your breath
which is why im starting to think the idea that they WANT the whiners to quit so they can put pay 2 win into the game and start over with a fresh new group who dont know better an wont ***** about it
Tikera Tissant wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Tikera Tissant wrote:
This can bring more players into the game who are more into the social aspect vs the entire game.
fixed that for you If the game was just all about killing people, by this type barely half the people would have play the game. Without the social part, there game would have died a long time ago.
didnt know you put only killing. I could have sworn you typed "killing/ganking/mining/building" well if you didnt mean the other two whyd you put them in?
Dunno about you but I dont log in to chat, I log in to mine/build/rat/anomaly/pvp. the social thing is an afterthought They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:49:00 -
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oops They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:55:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:People People People CCP DO NOT CARE The ONLY thing that will make the suits at CCP take any notice is people cancelling there accounts and ONLY then if the income from subscriptions and the purchases of PLEX for the use of adding game time continually fall over a period of time. You can make as many posts as you like on the forums, Alexander 'The Mittani' Gianturco can have his delusions of grandeur and it will NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCEYou want change, then do the following 1. Go to https://secure.eveonline.com/2. Log In 3. Click On Game Time 4. Click on Cancel Subscription 5. Give Reason 6. Click on Cancel Subscription or if you pay via plex - STOP adding game time. If enough people do this then the suits at CCP might, just might sit up, take the heads out of the arse and take notice but don;t hold your breath
which is why im starting to think the idea that they WANT the whiners to quit so they can put pay 2 win into the game and start over with a fresh new group who dont know better an wont ***** about it
Tikera Tissant wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Tikera Tissant wrote:
This can bring more players into the game who are more into the social aspect vs the entire game.
fixed that for you If the game was just all about killing people, by this type barely half the people would have play the game. Without the social part, there game would have died a long time ago.
didnt know you put only killing. I could have sworn you typed "killing/ganking/mining/building" well if you didnt mean the other two whyd you put them in?
Dunno about you but I dont log in to chat, I log in to mine/build/rat/anomaly/pvp. the social thing is an afterthought
The Mittani wrote:This has been unusual. I posted my comments on goonfleet.com and reposted them on Kugu because anything I write is automatically reposted on the GSF-specific Kugu thread within minutes. I had expected to have the CSM spotlight FiS Neglect in about a week, and then do a bunch of grinding work to try to get the media to pay attention to the spotlight. Instead, my alliance-only statement has created an increasing media buzz all by itself without any effort on my part. I can only take from this that the message itself is something that resonates with most of the playerbase and those who follow EVE. Looks like we just made Gamespy, too.
yeah.... I TOTALLY buy that all the "news" ppl just happened to find your blog on kug's place all at the same time. yup. No sarcasm here
dunno what happened to my posts but thats all screwed up They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 19:22:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:
Have you not considered the remote possibility that this effort is designed to cause large numbers of people to do just that?
Richard Hammond II wrote:
which is why im starting to think the idea that they WANT the whiners to quit so they can put pay 2 win into the game and start over with a fresh new group who dont know better an wont ***** about it
I believe I did, up there lol
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Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 21:08:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:
You're confused.
I'm talking about Mittens' effort to turn up the heat.
You're talking about CCP's imagined effort to get rid of paying customers.
lol your arguments just as imagined as mine is
Man, you believe anything Mittens says an youre more deluded than you think I am especially if you think he's doing this FOR EVE and not his Epeen
FiS shouldnt be a PORTION of the game is IS THE GAME and its sad that CCP even has players differentiating that now They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 21:14:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:[quote=Tikera Tissant]
The problem with this game is too many people unwilling to take risks that they perceive as large,
When all else fails, blame it on the carebears
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Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:07:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:
Misquoting the movie Cool Hand Luke is a deplorable abomination.
Or correctly quoting a Guns N Roses song They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:13:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:Why are you guys so lazy about typing ****? Stop with the acronyms already!!!
ya gtfo with that **** They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:30:00 -
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lol "there came a time when we realized we were being seen as apologists"
geeeee YOU THINK Mittens? "In defense of Arcana" lol
"we NOW have something to crystalize people that theres something wrong with EVE"
....yet nothing up till now has been this lol
It IS funny, Mittens "doesnt speak for the CSM" but none of the other CSM are talking MORE funny is the title of the window. "Funky talks to Mittens" NOT "Funky talks to the CSM"
It IS funny to hear him preening lol They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:45:00 -
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oh god I agree with Mittens
"Lifetime subs is a horrible idea"
Is it funny to anyone else how often you hear the CSM say "CCP are chill dudes"
lol "were not here for specific stuff. We just say this is broke, fix it" Every time Mittens says "flying in space" I wanna punch a baby. Though it would make a great drinking game. lol the baby in the background of the guy asking the questions They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:56:00 -
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OMG the CSM saying the game is dying O.o
the sky really IS falling They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:11:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:I was just listening to that radio show. It sounds like this Mitanni guy is trying to win back some people he may have angered? Personally, I don't entirely agree with his opinion. He did say something along the lines of Nullsec being short on ISK and although I haven't dedicated a huge amount of time to Null, one would think this is where most of the ISK is.
And as far as "dying." I saw a large amount of people that disagreed.
yeah its kinda laughable to say theres no isk in null
I wanna send an email as ask if high sec or low sec are gonna get love but I dont know the email lol
lol csm wasnt consulted on the 13 plex thing
HUGE SURPRISE there They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:21:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:
It IS funny, Mittens "doesnt speak for the CSM" but none of the other CSM are talking MORE funny is the title of the window. "Funky talks to Mittens" NOT "Funky talks to the CSM"
Im actually wrong in that theyre all talking which is interesting cause in these these things mittens usually does all the talking
"if the pilots are claustrophobic an they hate leaving their pods, WHAT ARE WE WiS?????" QFT
lol "what are you guys gonna do other than create negative press for EVE?"
Mittens: "a lotta ppl have ******** ideas what to do when youre in power" - He says such as resigning or breaking the NDA - so no releasing the minutes or Mittens actually rebelling guys
and no, he's not gonna retire cause "that would be stupid" lol
Gotta take another shot, Mittens said AGAIN "farmville in space" and "we need stuff to do not to wear" man can he come up with his own material? They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:50:00 -
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Oh man... WE arent gonna retire or unsub cause that would be stupid for us but what YOU can do is unsub.
Great... Mittens is lining up level 4 missions in highsec directly in his sights.
Fairly obvious how he feels about Highsec
"games should dot be developed in a democratic direction" - Mittani
funny given how he got where he is
Points to the interviewer for pointing this out by the way. He said "isnt the CSM crowdsourcing?" when The Mittani was saying how bad crowdsourcing is lol They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:56:00 -
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"I dont think doing what the mob wants is a good idea, but you throw them a bit of cake now and again"
nice... They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:06:00 -
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Dustin Roac wrote:well that's about it for whatever hopeful views of the csm I had. (after listening to the radio broadcast)
They are just a tool for CCP to use, nothing else. Always have been. Good intentions, but expectations and self flattery that has spawned from them defeat it's purpose.
And what I find hilarious are the ones that claim they have 'connections' and pound concrete to the media over these issues.
NO csm, those media outlets have connections with you because they will always try to get you to talk for as you said, website hits. They don't care a bit about you otherwise, or CCP and EVE for that matter.
The EGO that has grown of this group, to think that they have an ability to call for the player base to do something and the crowds will listen and follow, is just unbelievable. The preaching done by mittens and the lot thinking they know what's best for the whole of EVE makes me gag, CCP just needs to yank the CSM program and wipe it's hands of it.
Pretty much. The only thing I learned about this is its not just the Mittani, its the whole CSM that feel the same way. We (those of us in highsec) need a CSM representative. A whole lowsec (mind you he couldnt even remember the name of the one lowsec guy he was that important to Mittens)/0.0 CSM (even as ineffectual as they are) whispering in CCP's ear is bad for the ppl that dont have representation.
Honestly, and this isnt cause I want the game to die but for a reason Ill make more clear in a second, I hope CCP stands up to the CSM, disbands them, tells them to go screw themselves or something. Simply put because if they bend to their pressure, whats to stop the CSM from doing this kind of thing every time they want a change. Then the CSM really WILL have become a monster.
Large Collidable Object wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote: "games should dot be developed in a democratic direction" - Mittani
funny given how he got where he is
l
He ordered goons to vote for him?
The democratic system (flawed as it is in this game) got him to the CSM but he thinks there shouldnt be such systems in games. Maybe he realizes just how much damage he can do lol They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:17:00 -
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Given how easily Mittens flip flops on an issue how long you think it is till he stops caring about 0.0 and starts caring about something else... Everyone is all great that theyre nerfing High sec an all but what happens when the "your game" he wants to destroy becomes the game YOU play? They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 02:10:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:/yawn
Who cares anyways? When the game no longer is fun for you, find something else. When I finally get bored, I'll move on, until then, this is just stupid e-drama, and an ego boost for the members of the CSM for their illustrious non-positions within the community.
yeah well ignoring them doesnt work either due to the fact CCP listens to them for some reason
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Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 03:24:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Given how easily Mittens flip flops on an issue how long you think it is till he stops caring about 0.0 and starts caring about something else... Everyone is all great that theyre nerfing High sec an all but what happens when the "your game" he wants to destroy becomes the game YOU play? calling it now, Mittani is gonna ditch the whole "0.0 lobbying" thing and go straight to campaigning on a pro-PI platform.
you mean "farmville in space" he said it at least 15 times
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Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 04:57:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:I remember myself and hundreds of others saying a lot of the things Mittens is saying now months ago.
Why is this news now?
If you listened to the everadio thing, Mittens hardly even said one original word. It wa slike he was reading off an outline with buzzwords like farmville in space and flying in space They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 05:20:00 -
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Said this earlier but it got buried;
Honestly, and this isnt cause I want the game to die but for a reason Ill make more clear in a second, I hope CCP stands up to the CSM, disbands them, tells them to go screw themselves or something. Simply put because if they bend to their pressure, whats to stop the CSM from doing this kind of thing every time they want a change. Then the CSM really WILL have become a monster.
Its like netotating with terrorists lol if you do it once you set a precedence and will have to keep doing it. They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 08:56:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Azhpol wrote: Ah, but if they DON'T give in to the CSM, then the playerbase that actually made EvE famous(the 0.0 crowd) will pretty much all leave, or completely turn their accounts over to their bots so they can RMT. Eve isn't popular because of highsec, eve is popular because people hear stories about the crazy stuff going on in null, and want to check out the game that allows that. You lose the nullsec crowd, and eve will die a slow, stagnant death.
So its negotiate with terrorists or die,
Maybe. Or a sudden power vacuum in 0.0 could create invigorating turmoil over the scraps and herald a new age of cloaky bot trolling, ninja smallholding and unregulated ingame mischief on a scale that hasn't been possible for years now. Sudden power vacuum in 0.0? How about increased capacity of DRF to hold all of 0.0.
Dont russians hold all of it now? Seems like one group holding all of 0.0 is what CCP wants
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Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 17:50:00 -
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know whats funny here look here
look at that link an see how many time goons an the csm are trolling that thread an I have yet to see them get snipped Looks like a perk of getting on the CSM is immunity to forum mods They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 18:20:00 -
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Bolloxx wrote:Vin Hellsing wrote:[quote=The Mittani]This has been unusual. I posted my comments on goonfleet.com and reposted them on Kugu because anything I write is automatically reposted on the GSF-specific Kugu thread within minutes. I had expected to have the CSM spotlight FiS Neglect in about a week, and then do a bunch of grinding work to try to get the media to pay attention to the spotlight. Instead, my alliance-only statement has created an increasing media buzz all by itself without any effort on my part. I can only take from this that the message itself is something that resonates with most of the playerbase and those who follow EVE. Looks like we just made Gamespy, too. Oh come on Mittiani has opened his big mouth and put his foot in it Now he is trying to backtrack He is full of s*** , and knows little about the playerbase and has only the interests of the Goons at hand, you only need to see his views on WH space to see this
I like how he's pretending he didnt call the news ppl (email w/e) and point them to his blog, he's pretending thy found it on their own
Good question tho; I heard a player named Helicity got banned for telling a dev to diaf. Mittens is telling ppl to get their gasoline ready "its not time to light fires yet" insinuating that there will come that time. seems similar to what the other guy got banned for to me They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 19:24:00 -
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Anyone find it funny that this thread isnt MUCH longer by now?
Bienator II wrote:hmm. maybe the management hasn't yet realised that eve is real?
lol it would have been funny if theyd put that in the ban email "banned for real life threats - what you didnt know? EVE is real" They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 20:58:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:This thread has degenerated into goon hating personal insults from bitter vet alts. It really should be locked and pinned as an example of how posting should not be done.
Its also degenerated into (well its always been like this) Goons trolling everyone else.
You a Goon alt out of curiosity? They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.07 22:09:00 -
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Pesadel0 wrote:E man Industries wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Anyone find it funny that this thread isnt MUCH longer by now?
No blue posts so not as attractive as the other posts. I assume CCP is aware of the warning and are fully prepared to do nothing. Not that they could say anything. Alsot he devs posting are the good guys. They love EvE and work on making it great. Mittens post was about the upper managment whom you will NOT see post because EvE is simply something to be exploited. Heck some Dev's may even agree with mittens. You think they never say.."wow if we had a few more guys we could........." or "shoot we are behind again if only we had...."? I am suprised there is just one thread though, normally people don't read and make thier own thread so you get thread spam. So many dev posts on the new forum , stranglly the thread that has more pages and more views , gets nothing. I would love if some dev came here and trolled the **** of us all and mitt in particular, becausenow it is too late to try and "save" eve , after all the people said months ago.
Go here CSM trolling too
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